The MakeMeThinner Support Forum

[KellyC]

Is turkey bacon ok? I looked up the nutrition on it:

Serving size 14g (0.5 oz)

35 cal
2.8 fat
170mg sodium
0.2 carbs
2.1 protein

I'm considering turkey burgers for dinner, with caramelized onions and swiss cheese..

[Pashta]

I doubt it, too much sodium. Sometimes I add a teaspoon of real bacon bits to my eggs but it's only on occasion and only 25 calories.

Onions aren't allowed except as a garnish, just a tbsp or so and you aren't supposed to be having cheese either. All these additions would hinder your weight loss cause calories do count!

[GucciGoo]

Onions aren't allowed except as a garnish, just a tbsp or so and you aren't supposed to be having cheese either. All these additions would hinder your weight loss cause calories do count!

Since when can't we have cheese???

[KellyC]

well, the onions would be a garnish, not even a tablespoon is needed.. and I thought if I did smaller amount of turkey, I could have cheese (i found cheese today with no carbs, or fat, whee)... i mean, there are recipes on this site that have mozzerella stuffed chicken...

[Mike]

My only issue with the turkey bacon is really the fat. Yeah, the number looks low, and I'm assuming thats 2.8g per serving, which makes it 32% fat... that's in no way lean... but then again, the quickstart doesn't say lean turnkey, just says turkey.

As for adding the cheese.... many folks substitute cheese for part of the protein. This is your choice, as the quickstart doesn't say to do this. It does say 1/2 c to a cup low or nonfat is okay for your lean.

Hope this helps.

[Pashta]

Yep true but I thought I read you were having issues with losing, Kelly? That's why I said that. They say when you have slow losses or plateau to adjust everything to the bare minimum.

[Serendipity]

but then again, the quickstart doesn't say lean turnkey, just says turkey.

Ok, here's my question about the new Quick Start Guide. If you notice on the lean list, the columns are headed Leanest/leaner/lean. To me that means the cuts we choose should be at least lean. Bacon is not lean pork, so even though the guide says pork, it doesn't mean bacon. Ground beef is not considered lean unless it's 90% or more lean, so regular ground been would not be compliant, right?

[Pashta]

Yes they still say lean, but they also say to add fat into your diet now. Personally I think some days adding a little more really helps if you are in a slump or having bathroom difficulties. It has helped me.

Ground beef 80% lean and 90% lean are both listed in My Medifast's My Plan as perfectly acceptable L&G meats. I've never seen any ground beef under 80% lean being sold since I was a kid.

We CAN have hamburgers, just no buns! hehe I love the Boca Cheeseburgers sometimes too.

[Mike]

True Jo. Although, there are so many versions of Quick Start guides it gets confusing for people. I look at it kinda like catalog rights in college, but at the same time, be aware of the changes as they might help you along.

[Serendipity]

I've never seen any ground beef under 80% lean being sold since I was a kid.

Regular ground beef is 70% lean.

[Pashta]

Even if so, who would buy that and then not drain off the fat? That would be disgusting!

When you cook ground beef the fat drains off naturally so it still wouldn't be that fatty no matter what %.

[Serendipity]

Since we're talking about lean meat, I thought it would be appropriate to list the fat content of different grades of beef:

Fat content in a 5 oz. serving of broiled ground beef:
95% lean - 12 grams
90% lean - 16 grams
85% lean - 20 grams
80% lean - 24 grams
75% lean - 24 grams
70% lean - 24 grams
Frozen ground beef patties (not sure of the weight but assuming 5 oz. or less) - 24 grams

There is definately a big difference in the fat content even when the fat has been drained.

Quoted from the new quick start guide:

Choose meats that are grilled, baked, broiled, or poached (not fried)

In addition to you 5 Medifast meals per day, you will have one lean and green meal, which includes lean meat plus salad or vegetables......We've broken down meat options to include Lean, Leaner, and Leanest. All options are appropriate on the program; however we recommend adding fat servings depending on which option you choose. For example if you choose lean beef, no extra fat is recommended.

Draw your own conclusion, but my take on it is that regular ground beef is not lean, so it's not on program.

Waiver: Aside from the quotes and the content information, this is just my own very humble opinion.

[Pashta]

The burgers I eat on occasion are broiled as you highlighted and as I said before, 80% and 90% is LEGAL. Fat is not as bad as people used to think. We actually need it. The way of thinking has changed.

Low-fat is what made most Americans fat. Notice the correlation between lowfat food coming out and Americans' weight increasing? That's because lowfat food has added sugar and carbohydrates to make the food taste better.

Fat in moderation is good for us. EVERYTHING in moderation is good for us, including carbs and sugar. And this is not just my opinion, it is fact.

[Serendipity]

80% and 90% is LEGAL.

I'm not debating that. Are you sure that Burger King double stackers are at least 80% lean? I didn't see that on their website. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm just saying that lean is lean and there are plenty of lean meats that contain the fat that we need.

[Pashta]

They have to say lean because otherwise they'd have to change the term to something other than L&G! LOL Besides, as I said.. moderation. No we shouldn't be eating a ton of fat everyday.

I don't know what they use but it's definitely not fattier than 80%. If it was it wouldn't hold together well enough to stay a patty shape. Why do you question something that so obviously has worked for me? I'm not changing my opinion cause there's no need to. Atkins does work btw, and that diet includes TOO much fat.

There's nothing more to be said.