The MakeMeThinner Support Forum

[bikipatra]

Biki, overweight for 5'7" begins at 159 (on the BMI chart) so I'm aiming to celebrate at 158.

At this rate you'll get there before I will, but I am also looking forward to 256 because that will be 100 pounds in a year for me in July.

[Tawanda]

T ,
Im feeling a wee bit tired from your babysitting activities
My gosh, 10lbs away from normal? Hooray

I recently had a big discussion with myself about mindset. Honest to pete, for me, it is how I look at it, perceive it, think about it. I can look at life in a variety of ways. Does that make sense? When I was a thin woman, cake at parties just wasnt an option, one cookie at Christmas was enough, running was part of my day. I looked at life this way I was in total control. What a feeling. Then I took a detour and thought I was depriving myself, work outs were too hard, my life was a mess. I am now looking at life differently in a few short months of control
YIKES Ive stole your journal
so maybe we need to listen to some Dalilama tapes good postitive stuff.
h

HB, I do think that mind set has a lot to do with how well we do on losing weight and keeping it off. As I read about weight loss many are of the mindset that they are being deprived of a wonderful prize (usually meaning high fat or sugary foods that pack in the calories--and the pounds) and others somehow get the mindset that they are getting the prize by fueling their bodies with healthy foods (usually whole, natural or mainly unprocessed items) and thrilled with how their bodies are reacting to that better quality fuel. Funny how opposite those two ways of thinking are when I stop and mull it over.

Right now I'm thrilled that I can, once again, cross my legs with both soles of my feet facing the floor and not one foot's sole pointing to the right or left because my thighs & calves were too fat to allow my legs to bend in such a manner. I can wear shirts without worrying about them getting stuck in the creases of my belly rolls and I love the pride I see in my husband's face when he puts his arms around me and says "you are lovely".

How does a pizza, or a dish of ice cream, a slice of cake or any other 'food' item compete with those things? I can crawl on the floor and through the g'kids' play tunnels with them, I can get off the floor holding a baby that weighs 20+ pounds without setting them down first, getting up and then picking up the baby.

I am thankful that I do have the mindset that I have right now and I know how difficult it is to get once it has escaped me. That is why I'm so adamant about following the program.

Hope to 'meet' you some day in person.

[SuzyQ66]

Tawanda - great job!! It's nice to know the normal range fr our heigh (5'7') is 158. I am shooting for 150 - so it's nice to know I was on the right track.

[Patty]

Tawanda -

Thanks so much for the kind words in my journal.. You are so right that none of the answers are in the food and I too feel that great focus and need to keep it!

You are doing such a great job

[Tawanda]

I feel a bit drained today for some reason so wasn't going to write anything but then thought that I should at least post that my weight is back up .5 (166.5 this morning), that I'm not getting enough water drank each day (still) and that we have a family barbeque today so will be seeing lots of people who've not seen me since I began the program. It will be an enjoyable time but also stressful. I still am having an argument with myself over what I want to say to those who ask "how are you losing the weight?" and "how much weight have you lost?". I don't believe it is anyone's business how much weight I'm losing or lost so that question, if asked, will not get answered with a number (wish I knew why I feel so prickly about that one) and as for 'how'.......well, I'm okay with sharing that it is MF if it is someone who I feel is genuinely interested, but just for those who are making conversation or trying to pry a bit for some gossip, those are told that I've been cutting back on how much and what I eat. It is true (truth is important to me even when I don't want to answer, LOL) but it isn't giving out all the information that I find too personal to share with them. I'm such a private goose!

Weights.......I'll type up what is the top weight for a number of heights so that anyone interested can see where they are on the chart and in chosing their goal weight. I don't think I've done that already and if I have...please forgive my tempermental memory.

[holberry]

Hi T drink up today!

I feel exactly like you on telling about hos much weight I have lost.
Like what if a co worker just asks today , 'oh have you lost weight?' yes I say, only 50 big ones And I have at least another 60 to go. I just cant do it. And why tell? Ahccch Im too old to worry

So is this a baby day or T day?

Ive got the vet coming cuz I think a 1year old broke it's leg. NOT good
see you.
h
ps Are you drinking your water??

[Tawanda]

I'm really having a debate within myself over whether or not to post the overweight and obese numbers that the chart shows. I wonder about the numbers just because it doesn't seem to take into account a person's body composition or gender. Some one with a small build versus someone with a large build or someone with lots of muscle. Personally I don't think that the majority of the population would be able to fit within the normal range guidelines without starving themselves even if they were moderately active and wise about their food choices. But I don't have anything to base that on, other than just my feelings about the numbers.

I included the numbers for overweight and obese but didn't type out the weight they say 'Extreme Obesity' begins for each height. I figured this was enough information and if anyone is interested in seeing more they can find the chart online. I've mentioned before that I have one of these charts at my computer and one hanging above my scale with my height underlined. I checked my DH's height & weight.....he does not look overweight at all, but according to this chart, he is overweight by approximately 10#......so that is another reason why I wonder about the accuracy of the numbers, especially for men.

This information was taken off of the BMI chart that is in the Cllinical Guidelines on the Indentification, Evaluation and Treatment of Overweight and Obesity in Adults: The Evidence Report. (I've not seen the actual report, unfortunately).

5' 0" normal range is considered 97# to 127# overweight begins at 128#, obese begins at 153#

5' 1" normal range is considered 100# to 131# overweight begins at 132#, obese begins at 158#

5' 2" normal range is considered 104# to 135# overweight begins at 136#, obese begins at 164#

5' 3" normal range is considered 107# to 140#, overweight begins at 141#, obese begins at 169#

5' 4" normal range is considered 110# to 144#, overweight begins at 145#, obese begins at 174#

5' 5" normal range is considered 114# to 149#, overweight begins at 150#, obese begins at 180#

5' 6" normal range is considered 118# to 154#, overweight begins at 155#, obese begins at 186#

5' 7" normal range is considered 121# to 158#, overweight begins at 159#, obese begins at 191#

5' 8" normal range is considered 125# to 163#, overweight begins at 164#, obese begins at 197#

5' 9" normal range is considered 128# to 168#, overweight begins at 169#, obese begins at 203#

5' 10" normal range is considered 132# to 173#, overweight begins at 174#, obese begins at 209#

5' 11" normal range is considered 136# to 178#, overweight begins at 179#, obese begins at 215#

6' 0" normal range is considered 140# to 183#, overweight begins at 184#, obese begins at 221#

6' 1" normal range is considered 144 to 188#, overweight begins at 189#, obese begins at 227#

Hope someone finds this interesting and a way to help find that, sometimes, elusive goal number if you've been wondering what the scientific medical community thinks is appropriate weights per the BMI chart.

[bikipatra]

According to this chart I was underweight most of my adult life and I wore a 6 and occasionally a 4. Not exactly starving. I weighed 117.

[Tawanda]

Biki, I was right at the lower end of normal.......120 and my heavy was 127....then heavy was 135 and then heavy was 142.....and then zoom! up to 222#.

Well, today at the barbeque....one person mentioned my weight. They quietly asked me if I had lost weight and I answered "yes, I've been working on losing weight". Their response was "you look very nice". So......why in the world was I even thinking it was going to be brought up by anyone, LOL......either people don't notice, or don't care, or don't want to embarrass anyone by bringing up the subject.

Barbeque was a bit difficult at times. Would have loved to have had some of the chips (quite a variety of different kinds of salty snacks) or some of the salads (another nice assortment). No problem with avoiding the cake & ice cream...but the salty stuff looked so great. I had some lettuce, tomatoes, snap peas, broccoli and a chicken breast. It was good.

We brought home a grandchild to spend the night tonight with us (3 year old) so he and my DH are outside saying hello to the critters and just walking around. I'm going to relax a bit before they come back inside.

[queenielou]

Hey Tawanda,

Good job resisting the off plan food. Saturdays are always tough for me and I haven't been to a barbecue. For some reason, I get really hungry on Saturdays and all I think about is eating off plan. I stay on plan, but my mind really wanders.

I'm glad at least one person noticed your weight loss. I'm with you on telling people how much I've lost or how much I have to lose. I'm just not ready to have the conversation with someone about how I needed to lose a little over 100 pounds. I've told a really close friend of mine, but I needed his support to stay on plan so I'm fine with him knowing.

Hope you have a great night

[Tawanda]

Thanks QueenieLou for sharing that you have wandering thoughts... I do too. I often talk about being compliant and patient but, as much as I believe in it and have done it---it is not at all easy. I think I talk about it so much so that I'll have the shame factor if I ever have to come here and say well I went off program and I cannot get back on to it. I am so scared that I will not be able to get myself on program if I go off of it and that is the only thing that has stopped me a number of times from just tossing in the towel to have whatever food I want to eat. Right now there is 3 half gallons of ice cream in my freezer and a large portion of birthday cake on my countertop. If I wasn't doing MF I would have had a huge piece of that cake and I would have had a huge bowl of ice cream. I would be dipping my fists into the salty snacks that came home with us from the barbecue and I'd have had a huge burger loaded with ketchup and every other condiment on the table. I didn't have a good stopping mechanism when I would eat.....and I'd eat until I was so uncomfortable that I just couldn't stand the thought of eating anything more. I really feel that I could easily do that again --- at the drop of a hat, if I were not on MF and sticking to the program.

Right now, being compliant is the easy part....once I begin having more food choice freedom, that will be when the huge willpower reserves will have to be found. I just hope I have them and I don't gain all the weight back.

I'd better not gain any weight back........I don't have any bigger clothing!! I'm giving it away as soon as it gets baggy. My wardrobe is shrinking fast!

Well...because I was feeling like I was on the cusp of sticking my finger into the side of that cake, I came here. I will go have a couple glasses of water (I weighed a little bit ago and I'm up 4# from this morning!!! I had a pickle spear and a diet 7 up.....that couldn't do it......wonder if there was salt in the marinade she used on the chicken breasts? I am dreading roll call in the morning...there is no way that I will be 4# lighter by morning (or so I bet). I'm already getting down about it . Wish I hadn't stepped on the darn scale tonight!

[bikipatra]

I am dreading roll call in the morning...there is no way that I will be 4# lighter by morning (or so I bet). I'm already getting down about it . Wish I hadn't stepped on the darn scale tonight!

That is so not true. Maybe you were actually getting enough water for once . I have been 8 pounds over ticker in the middle of the day because of all the water and decaf herbal tea I drink and then been 2 pounds under the next morning. I have lost 2 pounds in 4 hours before. Get up go to the bathroom, weight one thing, wake up and the scale is lower. There is a reason we weigh first thing in the morning, because drinking and eating adds weight. These substances must be processed! All of these people doing compliance challenges, we need a special TAWANDA WATER CHALLENGE.

[Tawanda]

Weight for roll call is going to only be a .5 loss for the week. I've managed to gain a pound back of what I lost during the week. Hopefully it will go away as fast as it came back to me.

We had a grandchild over night so I didn't turn on the computer until now (just home from church). I don't have g'kids again until tomorrow afternoon---I'm thinking I'm going to go sit in my chair until then. I'm right on the verge of needing a vacation!

I'd better go report for roll call......and start drinking my water. I've had zero so far today (and Biki, yesterday I did have more water than I have had lately.....but still not sure I hit 8 glasses). I truly need to force myself to begin drinking it again.

[holberry]

Hi Tawanda!
Well, may I weigh in on the water too??
I drink a ton of the stuff and when I go to sleep, I always weigh about 8-10lbs over. No kiddin.
So keep drinking
hol

[SuzyQ66]

Hi Tawanda. Those BBQs can really be a killer. I was at several graduation parties a couple weeks ago and nobody noticed my weight loss. At the time I had lost almost 50 pounds and nobody notices? Oh well. I get more compliments from people at work who see me everyday..LOL!!

It's funny that you crave the salty things. In past diets I typically would crave them too but the only thing that lately I crave for is a Dairy Queen ice cream cone with vanilla and chocolate ice cream and their crunch coat topping. That sounds too good - but that's okay. Someday I can have them again - just not now. And when I do reintroduce them...I would like to mirror what Lizabette does and just have one treat a week.

Have a great night Tawanda. You are doing great.