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[explorthis]

(Grabbed from another post)

I too cannot wait to come off the shaking city....No joke! But that's my only way to Thinville

Hey, Bio-Conductor of the Thin-ville train.. How goes it? Since our “Get Nellie back on the train” thread a few days ago, I have been wondering how you are actually doing? Things going as planned? Can you tell your passengers that you are no longer disparaged?

I know “shaking” can be a long process, but you as well as the others know, its far less to shake and be fit, than to “mac” and be unfit.

So, tell us, how are you doing?

-Mike

[elle4nelly]

Hugh?

Well?...arghh?...well...?
Let just say that I've been on a Medi-rodeo-fast. I slipped and I've been going through 2 good days followed by a bad day..then I make it through a good day(that's a day without touching anything not-allowed that is)...and next day, I'm in bag or two or three and MM's....So yesterday and today are going as planned. It's really tough..no rewind..It's rough!! But being overweight is rougher!
I survived yesterday and today by practicing a technique I found in a self help book about compulsive eating, everytime I feel an urge...I go outside and walk around my office block and ask myself what's the emotion behind the impulse, is it boredom thus wanting food to dsitract me? Is it frustration thus needing food to calm me....I am trying to recognise the emotion behind the impulse and then aknowledging that M&m's are not the answer to boredom or frustration. So I device now other solutions...It's so hard because..all I can come up with right now..is walking outside and walking a City block or two or sitting in the park among Pigeons, Schizophrenic, bag ladies, grey suits on their cigar break and every other class of weirdos....
But what can I do? Today I walked out twice . I need help beyond dieting. I need help understanding why I reach out for things that only make me feel sorry later...and to understand that food is not the answer to emotions.
I don't know Mike! I am doing all I can right now..to really really get back on the straight and narrow and staying there to the very end. I have no intention of quitting...but I am dusty and bruised right now from all the falls.

Go ahead..feel free to say anything you wish....as a matter of fact...I wish you'd have a Mike Column on this forum...where you post each week a nice motivational or no -nonsense post...and we could all go and read it over and over when we'd need help!
Really...you should thinik about this!

Thanks Mike for being such a great friend to all of us.

Nelly

[Marseilles]

Well Miss Nelly...

I am not Mike, but I am sympathetic and your post hit home with me today...so, here I write. I shall give you a top ten list of ways to deal with said frustration....

10. While sitting on the park bench lamenting, pick up one pigeon and throw it at the nearest bag lady. (firstly, you may have trouble catching one..youve burnt off a half-bag of m&m's in the process.)

9. Throw the m&m's at the pigeons, instead..you will soon be flocked by them and unable to eat any of the offending chocolate without fear of losing an eye...or two.

Im SO kidding, but Nelly, all joking aside..you have a wonderful group of people here that are MORE than happy to have you vent to them and it leaves you less likely to be accosted by your friendly neighborhood schizo...and guess what?

We have all been there..the weeeknd was hellish for me..and it was M&M's as well....I use as well in the loosest sense of the term, because it was AS WELL AS everything else in sight!!!! I blew it large..and getting back past that three day mark HURT..it was painful and tough and REALLY annoying. But we can do it. I managed and I know you can too!!!

Stop, for just a moment and think of how empowering it is, to be able to CONTROL those urges, even just for a short time. Perhaps you can try putting it off..that is a technique that has always worked well for me. I negotiate with myself. Ill -not- have them for an hour. Or...if my phone rings four times in the next ten minutes Ill eat them..or, well pretty much anything...the trick to this is, negotiate the impossible.

If George Clooney calls and asks me to have dinner with him on Friday night, I'll indulge and have TWO bags of M&M's...

You get the idea!

I digress..my husband wouldnt approve..and Id still have an eating disorder :P

*HUGS*

We ARE here for you Nelly, hop back on the train because this ride is getting scary without the bio-conductor.

We believe in you. YOU control the fuel you put into your soon to be gorgeous body, it doesnt control you!

-M.

p.s. reasons 8-1 could be forthcoming at any given time, say the word..but Im sure people already think me half-whacked so go easy on me!

[Guest]

You are so funny marseille!!!!!!!
I had to crack up a good laugh at the thought of me chasing pigeons in a park downtown.
I dig all you said though. This is day 3 of being good. It's actually getting easier. I have debates and negotiation monologue with myself. So far it works. I get an urge to go out and get a baguette( I always crave starch before the visits..get my grip?)
Then I ask my self: " What is your real problem right now? Frustrated again? So do you think a piece of French baguette is the real solution here? Nope! Than leave the baguette alone and go do a good workout at the gym"...I don't know..I hope at the end of the journey I don't turn into a schizo..talking out loud o myself and pigeons in a park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But on a real note. I am doing everything possible to stay on the straight and narrow. I am reading self help books, doing the exercise in those workbook even though some of them sound really strange!!!! Yesterday I had to write a dialogue between me and my compulsion???? And in the process I realise that my compulsion is an attempt to shield myself from dealing with feelings or emotions I don't like?? Strange but true..
Anyway...it's all that psychology crap...but anything that can help me understand my self and my compulsion better ..I'd gladly give it a try. I do not want to ever ever be on another diet ever again!!! I mean that. I don't have it in me to start some other diet. This is the final one and it better work and I'd better educate myself on how to keep the weight off physically and psychologically when I reach my goal.
This is a one way train ride.... I am never ever coming back to Fat-ville again!

Nelly

[explorthis]

get a baguette
schizo..talking out loud
self help books
exercise in those workbook
write a dialogue between me and my compulsion
compulsion is an attempt to shield myself
psychology crap
understand my self and my compulsion better

Gawd, I am glad I am a Man…

Here is my theory, or from my pea brain

1. I Fat.
2. I Diet
3. I lose
4. I learn

-Mike

P.S. What’s a “baguette” ??

[Carrie]

<sigh> doesn't that just make me want to go kick the nearest guy in the shins!

It definitely is a struggle. I tell you, I have learned to appreciate the easy days, cause the tough days make me feel like I've been whupped through hell with a buzzard gut.

I guess we have to keep trying, and learn that we can have slip ups and get back on track. The times I've done it, it's been a major accomplishment that I've gotten back to the program, and not gone on another 6 month binge before I attempted some other diet. I keep telling myself that progress is the goal, not perfection. Unfortunately this isn't as easy as just 'deciding to do it'. Sometimes I have to re-make that decision a gazillion times a day. Sometimes I make the wrong decision, but when all is said and done, I am making the right decision much more often. And that's a definite positive change compared to the years of not even trying. This is not easy, it's HARD. And we should give ourselves credit for every little victory. We are learning and sticking with it and that's the main thing.

Hang in there ladies (even if it's by one last little fingernail)
Carrie

[Carrie]

and p.s.

oh please oh please let George Clooney show up at MY doorstep!

[Marseilles]

Mike, the title of your post brings to mind Monty Python..kinda scary, isnt it?

Nelly, Im here for ya chica..it is rough. It really is, because we fatties..and I mean that in the nicest possible way, but we -are- fatties..have always used the yummies to comfort us. Well..NO MORE!! Mike and I were talking previously and we touched on the theory of relativity. How long is this journey, when you break it down? It ISNT. It is a few short weeks or a few short months..or even maybe a year or so, for some..but what is a few months in the scheme of things?!

The payoff will be splendid..we will ADD years to our lives in the process..healthy, FINE-lookin years because we will be the hotties I have always found so easy to hate.

Call me shallow, I am VAIN..I dont even know that I am going for single digits..Ive always wondered what the girls able to buy a size 0 see in the mirror..

Negotiate the entire day away, if you have to..I swear by the process. For me, procrastinator extraordinaire, I feel a sense of justice..I am putting my biggest downfall to good use. And then as I have seen others suggest, I will reward myself for good behavior..speak to the most rudimentary of brain cells..new lingerie=good. +5lbs on the scale=bad. My booty in a size 10=good. My booty in a size 18=bad..and FAT!! (for me, anyways) If my booty in that size 10 looks like this..well, HAIL girl..wait till size 6!!!!

I dont want M&M's so much, when they make me feel like crap afterwards, I want to walk proud, head up and make eye contact with George Clooney when he comes to my door BEGGING to take me out and I say "No George, I told you when I had the restraining order imposed on you, I will NOT go to dinner with you..even with a body this FAB!!!!"

*smacks self on head and runs into that sad George Clooney's open arms*

Sheesh, what am I thinking..haha..and yes folks, the sky is purple in my world and there is no such thing as night...but there is never a DULL moment!!!

If all else fails Nelly, itll be ME thats the schizo in the park that you are trying not to be...muahahaha!!!!

-M. the invincible!!!

[explorthis]

The payoff will be splendid

I thought this was a sugar substitute?!?!

I am still waiting for this one:

What’s a “baguette” ??

Dare I venture a guess?

-Mike (oww, who just kicked me? Carrie?)


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[Carrie]

Trust me, George shows up at my doorstep and there'll be more than enough sugar for both of us ......... and I ain't talkin' bout the kind you get at a store!!! Yowza!




FMI: (For Mike's Information)
BAGUETTE:
1. A gem cut in the form of a narrow rectangle. The form of such a gem.
2. Architecture. A narrow convex molding.
3. A small narrow loaf of French bread often used for sandwiches.

[Marseilles]

*RAAAAARS*

OOooohhh..George the hottie, in living color!!



And the definition of a baguette is close, but forget small and narrow, baguettes need to be about the length of a loaf of frech bread except skinnier..oh great..now even our bread is skinny!!



Mike, you crack me up..I still think your approach to this is a gooder.

I eat
I fat
I no eat
I no fat

Its like a Dr. Suess book gone wrong.. I do not like food sam I am, I do not like it in a house, I do not like it with a mouse. I will not eat it anywhere, except off george Clooney's tummy, maybe there!!!!

-M. the drooling.

[Carrie]

Ok, so does this mean if I get to my goal weight I get George Clooney as a prize???? I'll even *consider* sharing him with M. (that's Marseilles, not Mike!)

[explorthis]

A small narrow loaf of French bread often used for sandwiches.

Uh, yeah that’s me a “narrow French bread eater”, as I hold my pinky up. <cheers> What Fat person orders a baguette? I would have ordered 2 complete meals, and probably a Baguette to eat, while I was driving across the street to eat he other 2 meals.

Oh Smithers, would you please pour my Dutch Chocolate Medifast in a crystal goblet please?

And as for hore-hey, lest I even see him (thus the big red X) let alone thinking of….arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhh Never mind!

[Carrie]

<sigh> I know, I like thinking of him too

heehee

[Marseilles]

Will that be waterford crystal Monsieur Mike?



I hear yah..keep the skinny bread away from me too. best stop talking about bread though..cause M. the deranged LIKES talking about food as a means of self deprivation..its all about fat-laden crusty yummy french bread for me..with garlic butter..LOTS of it...mmmmm...

See? Its fun to talk about food..Im like the annoying one on the survivor diet that drives everyone insane talking about food..



George Clooney as a prize..I'll offer him up as one, sure..dunno about the follow-through..but heck, a girl can dream!!

-M. the chillin...
Happy friday, one and all..here's hopin your weekend is a mediFUN one!!!