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Postby Karli » July 25th, 2007, 9:18 am

Yeah, the new quickstart guide suggests 2 cups of egg beaters as one of the vegetarian "leanest" options. I looked at the old guide and it used to actually only be 1/2-1 cup. That's quite a difference !!

I did the math with the new recommendation and it adds up right -- calorie-wise, it's about the same as any L/G -- it's just A LOT :shock: of food ... hee hee... my hubby got quite a kick out of it :-P.

Anyway, I really like your idea of adding cheese to break that amount up a bit. Maybe even just having some cottage cheese or whatever other cheese is allowable on plan (I will have to look that up).

But yeah, 2 cups is an *entire* 16 oz carton of the eggies :shock: . I really like the idea of baking it into a fritatta -- I will have to try this :).
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Postby nickieluv » July 25th, 2007, 9:37 am

Wow. I've never tried EggBeaters but I guess I should pick some up in case I ever have a day when I'm starving. :lol:

I was thinking - could you have split them in half and had 2 half-size L&Gs since you were up so long? Then you might not have needed as many supplements - but, it obviously worked out for you Miss Lost-Another-Pound!

Are you still doing your biking and intense workouts? Or, I mean, are you planning to restart that when you feel you've gotten to a place where you can maintain?
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Postby DogMa » July 25th, 2007, 9:45 am

Nickie, definitely give 'em a try. I like them because you can just keep a container in the fridge for emergencies, and you get a TON of food (and it's easy to add veggies; my emergency meal is basically the same as my breakfasts - frozen spinach, egg substitute and some low-fat cheese).

Karli, I'm not at all up-to-date on the new Quick Start, so I don't know what cheeses are OK anymore. But I tend to use either low-fat feta or reduced-fat Cheddar (and if I used the Cheddar, I have it with salsa, so more veggies). Or even Parmesan is good, with some more Italian-type veggies maybe.

I just wish they'd make a lower-sodium version. But we can't have everything, I guess.
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Postby Karli » July 25th, 2007, 3:20 pm

nickieluv wrote:Wow. I've never tried EggBeaters but I guess I should pick some up in case I ever have a day when I'm starving. :lol:

I was thinking - could you have split them in half and had 2 half-size L&Gs since you were up so long? Then you might not have needed as many supplements - but, it obviously worked out for you Miss Lost-Another-Pound!

Are you still doing your biking and intense workouts? Or, I mean, are you planning to restart that when you feel you've gotten to a place where you can maintain?


I suppose that would have been possible, though I am not sure how that would be regarding the program guidelines. I didn't know I would be awake that long, and I had my normal "last" suppy at 9pm -- I was still awake and hungry at 12am, so I had another suppy (which I thought was what we are supposed to do -- If your awake you eat (well, you know what I mean ... hee hee)).

Anyway, I had my L/G WAY earlier in the day. But, honestly, I was actually surprised to see any loss with very little sleep and the fact that I had so many meals ... but, I won't complain :).

I had to take another nappy today ... man, I can't get through the day without them lately :?.
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Postby nickieluv » July 25th, 2007, 4:05 pm

It would have been OK - Nancy has recommended that here and the QSG now says you can have your lean at a different time than your green, even - so you could have your veggies at lunch and your lean at dinner or something. Not that I've ever done either, but you technically could.

As for the EggBeaters - I don't know. I'm leery. Do they taste like actual eggs? Are they in fact eggs? For now I think I'd rather have my three 'real' eggs the few occasions that I actually am in the mood for them.
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Postby Mickeyz » July 25th, 2007, 4:16 pm

Hi Karli,
I've been catching up on your journal and I can so relate to many things you have said. I didn't start posting for quite some time after I was on MF and I didn't start my journal until I had lost 30 lbs. Why? I have fears of being judged and/or rejected. Most groups, just by their nature, have the "in" crowd and everyone else is either on the fringes or left out completely. But I decided the support would be worth the effort and time would tell if it was a wise move for me.

Eggbeaters: I love to use them as an omelet, but I cut back on the Eggbeaters and add some lowfat cottage cheese mixed with salsa, some fresh cilantro and tomato and you get a nice little Mexican omelet. It is a lot of food, but very yummy..
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Postby Lizabette » July 25th, 2007, 8:12 pm

KARLI,
I made omelets with eggbeaters alot for my L&G. Even when it was with 1 cup it made a lot!
I added spinach, mushrooms, onions & peppers, things like that---folded it over and yummy, yummy.
Egg beaters are eggs (whites) without the fat and I couldn't tell the difference.
You're doing good, KARLI! WTG!
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Postby bikipatra » July 26th, 2007, 5:15 am

Mickeyz wrote:Hi Karli,
I've been catching up on your journal and I can so relate to many things you have said. I didn't start posting for quite some time after I was on MF and I didn't start my journal until I had lost 30 lbs. Why? I have fears of being judged and/or rejected. Most groups, just by their nature, have the "in" crowd and everyone else is either on the fringes or left out completely. But I decided the support would be worth the effort and time would tell if it was a wise move for me.

Mickie, you are already such a vital part of this group I can't imagine you not being a part of it! :)
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Postby Karli » July 26th, 2007, 9:38 pm

Mickeyz wrote:Hi Karli,
I've been catching up on your journal and I can so relate to many things you have said. I didn't start posting for quite some time after I was on MF and I didn't start my journal until I had lost 30 lbs. Why? I have fears of being judged and/or rejected. Most groups, just by their nature, have the "in" crowd and everyone else is either on the fringes or left out completely. But I decided the support would be worth the effort and time would tell if it was a wise move for me.

Eggbeaters: I love to use them as an omelet, but I cut back on the Eggbeaters and add some lowfat cottage cheese mixed with salsa, some fresh cilantro and tomato and you get a nice little Mexican omelet. It is a lot of food, but very yummy..


Hi, Mickey :). I am glad that you joined in. I think that is an accurate way of percieving group dynamics as a whole -- I was never a part of the popular crowd growing up. I don't know that I really cared all that much other than the fact that some of the girls were pretty mean (not just to me, probably). I did make friends with one girl and we really seemed to connect ... that would have been my ticket in, but I just didn't want it. What can I say ?

Today my L/G was very different (well, you know, as "different" as a person can get with them). I used real eggs because I am out of eggies and I made a sautee with chilli powder and cumin, and then I put the beat eggs over them and let them almost "bake" in the pan with the lid on. It was really good :). It was my version of a mexican omelette :). Thanks for the idea, Mickey.

I weighed the same this morning, 171 -- I'll take it. I ate PB snack today. I will admit, I am struggling at the moment with wanting to eat. I think I am anxious about this weekend (going out of town) -- I am planning to be on plan and I am taking MF with me, but I will be traveling with others and for some reason that can be a bit of a challenge for me. It's like I think my chances of surely staying on while away are slim, so I might as well ruin it tonight with one of my fallback foods (cheese chips or pizza). Well, there is a pizza in the oven, but it's my husbands. I will admit, some part of me wonders if I will have it ... but, coming here and writing actually helps.

I got a new order of MF today -- decided to try the cold drinks : Fruit punch and Mango something or other ... and I also ordered the crab soup. I will tell you what I DIDN'T order, though -- I didn't order caramel nut bars. Those things don't stand a chance with me -- a total trigger they are. So, I took care of myself and didn't order any.

Okay. I am just keeping my fingers and my mind busy -- ha ha ... practically all I have written about is food :-P .
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Postby Karli » July 27th, 2007, 7:55 am

Well, I did indeed make it through yesterday without even so much as a little nibble off plan -- and, I will say, it felt SO good to wake up this morning without that sinking feeling as I am "coming to" that I screwed things up, once again. I will admit, I was weighing out some options last night about it all, but I just kept coming back to the fact that I would HATE going off program, no matter what the food tasted like and no matter what kind of "owie" it seemed to be patching.

This morning I was down another half a pound to 170.5 *moves ticker* and I am betting that, should everything go decently while I am out of town, I will perhaps be in the 60's again by Monday morning (the next time I can get a true weight) or at least pretty soon. I am definitely feeling/getting slimmer again and that's nice :).

There is no reason for today to be difficult on program. I will just be sitting in a car for 5 hours and I know where I will be eating tonight and have found a great L/G there before. Plus, the company I am traveling with has been very respectful of my eating needs in the past -- so, anything else is *completely* psychological for me.

Speaking of which ... I wonder how much my old bulimic habits carryover into this part of my eating life ? I was very secretive about that, and of course my binges were never in public and so on ... it just dawned on me that my feelings of needing to hide any kind of "altered" eating plan may come from the same idea ? I don't know. But, really, what in the world have I got to hide about ? Especially, why should ordering a L/G make me want to hide ? There really is no sane reason.

So, I feel some mental games wanting to sneak in, but I am not going to let them. This is the first month that I ordered two cases of RTD's because they are SO easy and often are my saving grace for compliance. I already had one this morning and plan to pack my suitcase with those puppies and a few bars (and maybe some suppies I have to mix, maybe not).

I won't be checking in on Sunday morning at Roll Call -- but I will be back and by gum, I would really like to come back having been compliant all weekend :). Tomorrow is just a meeting all day long, then the following day is driving again -- I know how to do that ! One foot in front of the other. That's it !

Cheers !
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Postby Mickeyz » July 27th, 2007, 11:19 am

You done good!
I will be sending you my positive compliant thoughts for the next few days! Hope your trip goes well, it sounds like you are preparing for it mentally.
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Postby Karli » July 29th, 2007, 10:17 am

Hi, Mickey. I guess your thoughts really helped as I am back (early) and I am happy to report that I was indeed compliant. Yesterday was pretty tricky at times -- I wasn't tempted just as a temptation, but circumstances were not in my compliance favor. Not in my control, yesterday's L/G came WAY TOO LATE and I became absolutely wild with hunger ... not good :shock:. Bread was served at the table but I didn't eat it -- though, from a sheer hunger standpoint it was difficult not to, but on all other standpoints, I just knew what I did and didn't want.

Anyhoo, happy to be home. Looking forward to another simple, easy, and compliant day at home.

Cheers !
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Postby Mickeyz » July 29th, 2007, 10:47 am

Good for you!! The food I miss most and is hardest to resist is french bread. I don't know if I could have resisted if I had been so hungry!

Glad your trip was a success. :D
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Postby bikipatra » July 29th, 2007, 11:21 am

Mickeyz wrote:Good for you!! The food I miss most and is hardest to resist is french bread. I don't know if I could have resisted if I had been so hungry!

Glad your trip was a success. :D

When I was 18 and an anorexic-bulimic and got really really hungry I would eat whole loaves of french bread from Vie de France. The texture is just so amazing. I wouldn't throw them up, I imagine it would have been painful, but I love them too! I never gained any weight because all my other food was green beans and apples. I haven't had any french bread in 262 days. All my sammiches of months ago were made with whole wheat sliced bread.
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Postby nickieluv » July 29th, 2007, 7:20 pm

Hey Karli - glad you make it back safe and sound and thinner. :lol:

BTW, your comment in roll call today made perfect sense to me. More than seeking acceptance on this board (which I used to do), now it is more like we are all fighting the same war together and we have a bond because of that - but we are still living our own lives apart from this place.

Welcome back! My show is finally over so hopefully I'll have more time to check in on you (not that you need it - I just like to). :mrgreen:
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