Bizarre scale behavior - anyone else?????

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Bizarre scale behavior - anyone else?????

Postby Carrie » October 13th, 2004, 7:37 am

Ok, here's a new one for y'all....

Has anyone ever GAINED several pounds in one day – while being faithful to the program????

That seems a lot even for PMS. And I have been totally faithful. I was 206.8 both Monday and Tuesday mornings, then last night the scale said 214.0 !!!!! I about had a cardiac event! How can I gain 7.2 pounds in a day?????? This morning it said 211.8. Isn’t that strange? Has this happened to anyone else?

It has simply got to be water weight – but I can’t figure out how I could swing that far back up. Or where I could put that much water. I haven’t really done anything different over the last few days, I’m stumped. Any ideas?

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Postby explorthis » October 13th, 2004, 7:53 am

OK – YES, this is me also, not even on Medifast (well sometimes)
Last night dinner was salad (quite common) I have “Morton’s hot salt” I think the label says: caution flammable on it, as this stuff will cause serious heat, not to mention it must retain fluid like no ones business.

I stepped on the scale this morning, as I do 365 days out of the year, and had gained 3 pounds. NOT. I know I did not really gain 3 pounds, but like Carrie, “I about had a cardiac event” Knowing I did not consume 12 ¼ pounders to gain 3 pounds, I only had lettuce with some turkey pastrami and dressing, did NOT cause me to gain 3 pounds.

So the answer is YES.

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Postby elle4nelly » October 13th, 2004, 8:20 am

Yep!!!!!!!!!!!


It has happened to me several times and I've noticed a pattern. Any week that I get a big drop..the following few days or so I go up again. I swear it happens often! It's like I get dehydrated and my body rehydrate again or something. Also on pre" Visits"...the scale will go up Several pounds..up to 8 lbs and even 12lbs on pre-MF days when I was bigger...and then drop a large amount when it's over.
Thus....I AM NOT WEIGHING IN THIS WEEK. My next weight in will be Sunday the 24th. Although I am in my militant mode with MF, I don't want that scale to drive me nuts. I am 100 % compliant and I'll check myself on the 24th so I don't get upset when A-flo comes around in a 2-3 days. No huh sir! I'm going to ignore that scale till she's gone!

So my advice to you is keep on going and it will move forward again!!

As for you Mike the answer might be easy. I think when you take in a little more carbs on some days you go up because your body has to retain water to process that carb. And by carbs I mean any of them even the good ones like whole wheat or brown rice doesn't matter. Of course if you also take in anything sweet the water retained will be higher. and SALT has the same effect on the body. It will also make you retain Un-Godly water amounts!!!!!!!So in your case I don't think that it is how much you take in but more what you take in.

This is my guess...

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Postby explorthis » October 13th, 2004, 9:19 am

So in your case I don't think that it is how much you take in but more what you take in.


Sorry, Carrie, not trynig to take the light off of your scale fiasco,

Nellie, more info please…..

My intake is basically the same every day. I rarely vary. I do not eat sweets, lest it’s fruit. Banana a day, 3-4 times a week, have an orange for snack. Last night I was starving, (forgot to mention) 2 regular full size red apples at about 9:00 (after my walk – which I will get to in another post) I don’t eat floured/sugared items whatsoever. I am lucky if I consume 1 slice of bread product(s) a week. Just not my thing anymore. Very little meat, and when it is, it is R-A-R-E-L-Y red meat, but lean turkey, lean ham, or turkey pastrami. Candy is an absolute no, and most processed items that I consume are VERY low in sugar. I actually had 2 bagels last week (plain of course) and they were on separate days. I am a glutton for some lemon/herb pita chips I get from Costco, and average 2 servings a day, which include: 6gm fat, (5%) 15gm carbs (5%), but 125gm sodium (6%) and zero sugar. Multiply this by 2, because during the day, this is my snack-n-pick.

I think it is the salt. I occasionally go hog wild on the hot salt shaker, as I did last night. I put (pour) more than my share on it, about once a week. Even as I was basically pouring this on my greenery last night, I was thinking “gonna retain water”, sure enough, this morning, I was blessed?!?! with a 3# gain….. I am still consuming easily 100+ ounces of water a day. Even last night from 7:30p till bed, I drank (2x33 ounce) 66 ounces of water.

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Postby elle4nelly » October 13th, 2004, 9:58 am

Mike ?

You're fine with your diet. Everyone is different. If I ever have a Bagel( 3 oz averages 234 cal and 45.4g of carbs) and 2 apples-large ones ( 250 calories and 64.7g of very good for you carb and fiber) + a banana-large one ( 145 cal and 33.7g carb)...all of these in one day....That scale would go up. Unfortunately, I cannot, and never will be able to consume this much since I have syndrome x as they call it or insulin resistance. 143.8 of carbs in one day is pushing the utter limit for me. Don't forget some of your Deli meat contain salt too mike. The lean ham and turkey pastrami...that can add to your Sodium intake since you are sensitive to salt intake...I'd watch that to. And alcohol is another culprit too. It will dehydrate the crap out of you and you may record a loss the next day and as soon as you sip water you baloon back and sometimes beyond.

Anyway carrie...just ignore that scale for a few days...cut out any salt and drink plenty of fluid.

These things happen! Some people live on sugar and are rail thin and I eat a bagel and my belly goes up and I'll retain water! I do okay on salt most times...but others don't??? Such is life! Don't give up!
Mike? I'm glad to hear you were walking! :D

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Postby explorthis » October 13th, 2004, 10:30 am

Mike? I'm glad to hear you were walking


I am - big post (and really humorous) I need to create, and mostly thanks to you... Details to follow. All I can tell you is YOU WERE CORRECT!

Thanks for the salty post, and info!


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Postby DutchChoc » October 13th, 2004, 4:20 pm

Hi, Carrie!

Yes, right after last week's weigh in I incorporated a huge vessel of spicy chicken bouillion. It tasted so good (and salty!) that I had two huge vessels. !! And now I've been having it at work each day and on weekends, etc, and I suffered about a 3-pound setback that's only now letting up. I'm sure I could forego the "beverage" and reclaim some of that progress, but I've almost started liking it too much for that, so I will just tolerate what it did and keep working. I know that it's a kind of environmental problem AS LONG AS I don't pilfer into something more obnoxious.

Like Nelly said, I also sometimes go down in a "heap" and then not see that wonderful weight for another few days afterwards -- probably that dehydration/rehydration she said going on, or so I think. I LOVE being dehydrated, then!!

So, let's just keep hanging tough and wait for our prize. Or is it prizes?? :)
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Postby Carrie » October 14th, 2004, 5:08 am

Thanks Nelly, Mike and DC,

Yah, I think I have several things going on at once -

Tuesday night I wanted 'real' food so I had a MF chili with a ton of chili powder, hot sauce, red pepper and some salt. This was after several days of shakes only.

I think I've got some 'womens' things going on, body is a little haywire in that department right now,

AND I woke up in the middle of the night in a full blown allergy attack - which probably does have some physiological byproducts.

Scale said 210.8 this morning, which is 4 pounds higher than I was Monday and Tuesday - so while it's not good, I just tell myself over and over, 'this is water weight, it's gonna fall off and then some.'

Trying my patience, but I am DETERMINED to see this through without any mishaps.

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Postby explorthis » October 14th, 2004, 6:21 am

It tasted so good

I know that it's a kind of environmental problem AS LONG AS I don't pilfer into something more obnoxious.



Here in lies our lifelong problem. Food in general. Dutch, you gonna look back 2-3-4-5 months from now, and say, WOW, losing the weight was the easy part. Keeping it off, keeping at your goal is the challenge. It is not an impossible challenge, but one that will plague those of is with weight management problems. Am I unique? Bet not. I am a fat guy his entire life, that has lost the weight! I am no different than any of you, fighting an uphill battle. Whooopee I did it. It is euphoric. Anyone believe this? Sure you do. I am a walking testimony, as many of you that are close to your goal are. Lots of you are just around the corner, ready to reprogram your brains, cause it’s almost time to LEARN TO EAT. It is a PITA to reprogram the brain. I am not stating any of this to scare anyone, but face it, the brain wants to eat. Weather it is a physiological, psychological, mental, social, or just plain “I am hungry” syndrome, fact is, the brain does not want to cooperate. I try time and time again, to stay away from Dutch’s “vessel of spicy chicken bouillon” but it is hard. There is a “spicy bouillon vessel” around every corner, and we have to remain strong. I fully believe as many of you do in the full fast method of Medifast, as opposed to the 5/1. Why? Because I am not disciplined enough to have “just a little”

Sigh… Challenges, but they are winnable. We must remain strong.

Thoughts…

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Postby DutchChoc » October 14th, 2004, 4:39 pm

Hang in there, Carrie. With the good things in your life, especially lately, I know that you know it isn't all about what's on the scale. In some ways, and for some of us, it's easy to think of the scale as a barometer of happiness and wellness when, in fact, it's just a scientific instrument. What's in our heads and in our hearts is at the forefront.

Thanks, Mike. You're so right and I know it well because, while I can do THIS, I suspect that I can't do "that" very well, which is moderating the flow of goods through the porthole once it's happening. Like you, doing THIS has been pretty cut and dry for me... doing "that" is what I've always been ruined by, time and time again. HOWEVER, the bright idea that I had last night was that I might stay on the shakes only at least to my goal, and then just TRY switching to some of the other MF items before cutting my teeth on transition. Well, not switching to them, of course, but using them according to the rules. My low confidence tells me that those mint bars I bought at the $300-save-$80 sale will twist me in knots, just like a pittance of candy.... but maybe if I try really hard what -- to be "normal"? -- I will succeed because I'll be telling myself that they're sanctified MF products. Ditto with the oatmeal and with the soup, etc. I suppose those are safer because I'm a sweetaholic and the bars will probably get me going.

So, I appreciate your candor, and I'm glad you're here to share your experiences. I wondered about the same time as I contemplated my new MF future how your transition went after the 100+ days of shakes only? It must be a bit freaky and cut-looshish to take those first bites. I have fears that I will be acting/feeling internally as though I've starved for a long time and somehow justify overeating. That's the one thing I don't want to happen.
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Postby Carrie » October 15th, 2004, 5:50 am

No Relief as of this morning. ugh.

There better be a great big ole drop at the end of this and soon. It seems cruel and unusual punishment to be true to the plan and GAIN and KEEP 5 pounds for 3 days. Rationally I KNOW it has to be water weight, but pyschologically it feels devastating.

I guess this is one of those 'speed bumps' in the MF road. <sigh> I never have been any good at patience, LOL
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Postby elle4nelly » October 15th, 2004, 7:30 am

Carrie???


I am going to offer you a tough advice!! Take the scale and go to your best friend and ask her to hold on to that scale for 5-7 days. By doing so you do 2 things. Prevent the impulse to weigh yourself everyday during a sensitive week ( Aunt Flo week) and it will also prevent DISCOURAGEMENT. [b]When the going gets tough get tougher[/b]. Stick to your plan! Don't skip any shakes. Drink tons of water. Get good rest. Exercise and let the days roll by. Then go back to your friend, get the scale back and see what progress you've made!

Keep obssesing with that scale and 2 things might happen here. You might get P-O enough to stick it out till the scale move again or give up on MF. Be brutally honest with yourself Carrie! If you know patience isn't your thing. Then do consider my advice above. Keep that scale out of your house and keep going clean and strong.

Either way..giving up after you got this far is NON-SENSE!!!!!!! So you're 10 lbs away from 200lbs? Weren't you 60 lbs or so above 200lbs???

You've come a long way friend...don't quit now!

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Postby hawaiiwhatnot » October 15th, 2004, 12:19 pm

Amen Nelly! Carrie, I waited September 1 to September 20 for the scale to move!!! I know the frustration, but take Nelly's advice, and put your energies into sticking with the plan and doing some moving around - walking or dancing with your headphones. All things must pass (George Harrison).

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Postby Carrie » October 15th, 2004, 1:21 pm

Thanks Nell and Camille!

I'm going to think of you 2 this weekend every time I think of cheating. Having to face you with the bad news will keep me on the straight and narrow, LOL.

I want this too much to screw up now. It's water and it's GOTTA come off soon!
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Postby elle4nelly » October 15th, 2004, 3:08 pm

I am here for you my friend!!

I'm awaiting Flo...and I am sooo bloated. My fingers look bigger..the pants that were really lose last week are a bit snuggish around my belly. I told you earlier, that I have no intention to step on that scale and terrify my self into a binge brought on by disapointment. I know myself too well by now and I've gotten tough. Since I can't handle too well the scale numbers going up and I DO know that right now it will register water gain then, I'm not going to bother with no weighing in! I DO keep my diet clean and real. I just keep on going and marching toward my goal. And if "Flo" continues to be delayed and shows up next week and by Sunday she's still around ? Guess what ? I won't get on that scale until the 31st.

I know..I am 100% compliant BUT I cannot allow myself to feel depressed about losing weight or get discouraged now. So I do whatever it takes to keep myself going. We have to work with ourselves and not against ourselves!! We know ourselves better than anyone else save our mothers! If you are sensitive to an object ( the scale in this case), then remove the said object from your environment to prevent a fall!

Stash that scale away for a few days and concentrate on your new guy, on staying as compliant as you can ...and soon you'll drop weight again. It can take 1 day, 2 days , 1week or 3 weeks like in Camille's case. BUT it will move forward again. Just know that and you'll be fine!

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